Roosevelt Island Tramway from L.V., Navada? The R.I. Tram is in NY in the middle of the East River. I pass it on my way to Manhattan all the time.
Interesting, Very Interesting!
You can form a really nice collection of modern Local Posts for not a lot of $. Lots of fun!
Is this one a fantasy local or did it have any postal validity ? It would be nice to have some worldwide locals shown and discussed but I think the two should be seperated for ease of searching.
I will soon be getting hold of Phillips Local Post catalogue and will check these out. Or are they new issues ?
i doubt it has postal validity, even in NY, but certainly not NV. I can see the similarity in state abbreviations, and hence the confusion, ala Bruce's wandering cover. RI has its own PO, 10044, so there's no NEED for a local post.
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It was my understanding that in the US most local posts are really just hobbyists and the only two I am aware of that actually provide regularly scheduled commercial service are Rattlesnake Island LP and Hawai'i Post.
I put this page together 5 years ago, and it may have been wrong back then or things may have changed:
Lars
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So what is the definition of 'runs a local post' ? Making one's own stamps for fun does not mean it's a local post. Just pure fantasy.
There is more than a fine line between a local post and a fantasy local post.
"There is more than a fine line between a local post and a fantasy local post."
I am glad to hear that Mr. Bus. It is the fantasy nature of a number of local posts I have encountered that have thrown me off this field of philately. If there was some hard and fast guideline, it might make it seem a less fanciful and more concrete. It is, of course, the more concrete nature of stamp collecting that is a part of its appeal (having a set number and type of stamps to collect).
Micheal, I thought it was clear that only Rattlesnake Island is a USPS-sanctioned local post, meaning they are authorized to move the mail. Tadpole LP moves the mail, too, but it is unauthorized, and moves it from the house to the PO, where it enters the mail stream. It does no more than I do when Dehlia and I take the mail into town on Saturdays.
yes, it, like almost all other current LPs, is a fantasy creation.
that said, I still treasure all my TLP covers
David
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Their are a number of fairly recent Real "Local Posts." Ones that actually deliverd mail. Not just to and from their own residence to the PO. One that comes to mind is the 1970's Chautauqua Lake Local Post here in NY. Their were several mail boxes located on private docks around Lake Chautauqua. The mail was carried on board the ship "For Roligt." and delivered to the town of Greenhurst, NY for forwarding by the USPS.
Don`t forget the ENTORIA L P in the USA interesting... In Great Britain the local Boy Scouts use local post for a major fund raiser. At Christmas time Christmas Cards are stamped with special stamps (this year 20p) and place in mailboxes adjacent to the Royal Post.. The cards are collected and sorted by volunteers and scouts and are delivered in the Salisbury and South Wiltshire areas... an interesting google after I received a card with the accompanying 20p stamps on it.....
Just for my personal collecting interests, if the local post actually picked up and delivered mail, it is a valid local post. There doesn't seem to be an law against it, so I want to collect it.
I have a nice collection of Hutt River Province ( an independent state in Western Australia)Ruled by Prince Lenard.
Also a few from the Lighting Ridge Local Post.
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Juan de Fuca Local Post. Operated because of the many Canada Post strikes of the time. Here is a sample (sorry for all the pictures -- smaller ones weren't clear enough for my taste)
There are lots more different stamps.
Roy
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Thousand Islands Local Post. Operated by an old friend (and competitor) of mine, Glen McIntyre. From Kingston Ontario to Thousand Island Park, NY (30 miles east of Kingston and just across the Thousand Islands Bridge) when we all endured the numerous Canada Post strikes of the early and late 1970s.
I sold this set of 7 covers just a couple of weeks ago:
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Roy,
What a wonderful collection of covers. Could you please educate this ignorant Australian, :-). Is the Juan de Fuca local mail only between Victoria Island and the mainland? If so, why is there a need for it?
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No, it was a cross border service from Victoria, BC to Port Angeles Washington and like many of the Canadian Local posts, it is actually Strike Mail as well. We had a number of very long mail strikes in Canada. This one was run by KM Robertson, a very large (at the time) stamp dealing firm that was notable in the kiloware market.
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I'm a bit confused by the connection between the 'local' post also being Strike post ?
So far it seems we have real local posts and bogus/fantasy local posts in one thread and now we have strike posts too ??
It would be nice to get the thread sorted for ease of searching and the future generations of Stamporama members to come.
Or it could get really mixed up !
I suggest:
Real Local Post Labels and covers.
Bogus or Fantasy Local Posts
Strike Mail labels and covers
As we appear to be in the General Philatelic section then no need for 'Worldwide' to be added to titles.
If placed in the USA Cinderella section, where other countries Cindies are placed, then the country name should be added.
It is fair to say that the vast majority of local posts are philatelically inspired or are fund-raising labels(like modern railway letter stamps in the UK). However it has not always been so. While Lundy stamps have arguably always had some philatelic motivation - in the days when the island had a local population of some number ( before it became basically a nature reserve and tourist attraction), the stamps actually did perform a true postal duty albeit only on the boat between Lundy and the nearest postbox on the mainland ( a GB stamp had also to be affixed to affect delivery). Todays Lundy stamps, while strictly performing the same purpose are in reality only souvenir labels - as the number of persons needing to use the service is severely limited -the number of permanent residents being small.
Tadpole Local Post.. fantasy, bogus, cinderella, it's all good. The name comes from the pond out back. I wanted to call it Dragonfly Local Post. Also because of the pond, but that just didn't sound right.
It gave me joy to create and do what needed to be done to work my little local post. From the drawing of the airship (Knabenshue's) that was tied to early local history, to the carving of a real cork to make my cancel. We live about 7 miles out from town. Besides the drive, Jacob's delivery of mail to the post office involved his cane and on harder days his wheelchair. I still often tell folks, 'We'll get this in the mail on the next trip into town.'
I ordered special postcards for announcements and such. We had our names on the back as the proprietor and the courier. It brought Jacob joy to be a contributing force to the project. It made us both happy that others enjoyed receiving our mail.
Having a LP is a part of the hobby. It doesn't have to mean anything to anyone else. I designed another stamp that was ready to be printed, but life takes funny turns. And it's not the kind of funny anyone laughs about. Priorities change when your family needs you.
And that other stamp? Rip Van Winkle, my favorite American short story. Not tied to local history, but that Headless Horseman gets way too much attention.
I am fascinated by this thread because it makes collecting that much more fun, legitimate or not. The Juan De Fuca covers were especially interesting, thanks, Roy.
Let Tim enjoy his local posts without picking it apart, people! BOB
Goodness Randy, the post office did a number on that postcard. smh! The first day stamps were printed on special paper. The regular use stamps were printed on another kind of paper. ...I still have few unused regular use stamps. maybe I'll make a last day of use postcard for that particular stamp and send one to you, David and Tim. Tom (Harley) also got a kick out of them. He had sent a bunch of mint postcard rate stamps just to make sure he didn't miss out. Miss him.
Anyway, a last day of use for the airship stamp sounds fun. I have at least 8 more stamps I can use. If anyone else in the US is interested, send me a private message. For out of country folks, maybe we can do a trade or something.
p.s.- Tadpole Local Post takes pride in not damaging the mail.
Also, the regular use stamps are pretty close to the same color as the stick it notes Randy used for privacy on his scan.
Doe, you know me well. Yes, a last day of issue for the issue would be a treat. I am looking forward to seeing the airship, or Rip van Winkle, ride again. I live not far from Sleepy Hollow, which is about 50 miles to the south, and the Rip Van Winkle bridge, about 25 miles north, that links Hudson and Catskill over the Hudson River.
I, too, miss Harley. I found a package all addressed and ready to be sent to Tom just before he died. He had been working on a geneology map to help me sort through the voluminous correspondence that found its way to me.
and I found a few mailer permits for you. I'll pack em up shortly.
David
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Thanks for posting the Tadpole mail example Randy. I have a couple of these tucked away in my collect and they are in amongst my favorite pieces. It was Doe who got me interested in collecting local mail stamps. There are a lot of them around when you get into them.
Can any of the members share information on a local post called THE WEB ? I just saw a cover on ebay for Charles Lindberg and it has a local post stamp on it *The Web*
US Local Post 1977 The Web Charles Lindbergh Aircraft ID# 331678947375
I decided to purchase it so I`m not sure if this info will show it ..
UPDATE I believe the cover in mention was put out by the Experimental Aircraft Association Can any member add to this The local post stamps are called THE WEB ?
The Tadpole Local Post last day of use stamps will be mailed within the next two weeks. They will all have contents of some sort, and for one of them, I am awaiting the arrival of some stamps. Although I do not really have much along the lines of what a couple of you collect, I don't send empty envelopes. TLP may be a fantasy post, but we keep it real!
I have received a request that one of them be signed. If any of you that have already reserved your covers also want it signed, please send me a private message letting me know.
EDIT: I am still waiting on an item from one member for their cover. It should arrive soon. If it does not, the covers will go into the mail without it, before the year ends.
All those US Based official and non-official local posts can be found in my CD Catalogue of Modern US Local Posts.(Volume 2)
The British ones can be found in my CD Catalogue of Modern British Locals Posts (Volume 1)
and the Canadian ones in CD Catalogue of Modern Canada Local and Strike Posts (Volume 11)
Christmas Island local from 1916 when the Island was run by the British Government and leased to the Central Pacific Cocoanut Plantations. Depicted is one of their sailing vessels, the 'Isobel May'.
I like the history behind local posts that had a purpose. Those bringing mail from a distant island or providing service during a postal strike.
Then there are those where someone was just playing post office. See image above from the Cadillac Post of Wildwood, NJ. It was named such because the owner, Glen Dye, drove all over Cape May County "delivering mail" in a 1952 Cadillac Coupe de Ville.
I am renewing this older post....
I just received a cover with a Polar Bear Local Post from Deadhorse, Alaska with a postmark April 1983. and a Mailer postmark permit.
The return address names a Paul Mills.
Do any members have additional information on this local post.?
Cheryl