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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy.. 11 Jun 2017 10:29:14pm | re: Machin Album Pages - A Query
Robin Harris gave you a choice of layout; by "type" or by "denomination."
" ... Two sets of of album pages are available: organized by 'type' (that is, within each country, all '2-band' phosphors are grouped together, all 'center band' phosphors are grouped together, etc.) and by 'denomination'?...."
I'd have chosen "Denomination" as that would be close to the Deegam system which is very logical.
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Choosing "Type" sort of marries you to some form of SG or Scott system, neither of which is based on a smooth logical methodology. At least to me.
However some time ago I tried to create a "concordance" of sorts, based on Jet Stamps price list for my own benefit. Here is the first section. It may, or may not, help you.
Where there were numbers in one column without a corresponding SG number, or vice versa, I added what appeared to me to be the logical extension using "letters"; a, b, c, etc. But at some point I became distracted.
1971-96 Decimal Values with “conventional” perforations
22 x841 ½p turquoise, 2B, 1971 ................... .20
22a x842 ½p turquoise, LB, 1972 .......... .... ...69.00
22b x842 Same, ½p turquoise, clipped perfs ..16.00
22c x843 ½p turquoise, CB, 1977 .................... ...35
22d x924 ½p turquoise, PCP, 1980 .................. .25
23 x844 1p crimson, 2B, 1971 ........................ .20
23a x845 1p crimson, CB, 1977 ...........................25
23Aa x845a 1p crimson, redrawn, CB, 1984 .......... .55
23a x846 1p crimson, PPP, 1979 ............. ... .35
23b x847 1p crimson, LB, 1986 ................... 1.10
23c x847Ea 1p crimson, RB, 1987 .................. .. 3.95
23d x925 1p crimson, PCP, 1979 ............. .. .20
24 x848 1½p black, 2B, 1971 ................ .. .20
25 x849 2p myrtle green,2B,1971 ................. ...20
26 x849a 2p myrtle green, thin value,2B,1979 . ..55
26a x850 2p myrtle green, PPP, 1979 .................45
26b x926 2p myrtle green, PCP, 1979 .......... .25
27 x927 2p deep green, redrawn,PCP,1988 .. .. .35
28 x928 2p myrtle green,redrawn,PCP,1988 .. 6.25
29 x1000 2p emerald grn,litho,p.14,PCP,1980 ....40
30 x1000a 2p emerald green,litho,PCP,1984 .........55
31 x1001 2p brt.& dp.grn,litho,redrn,PCP,1988 ..90
31A x1050 2p dp.green,litho,p.14,PCP,1993 .......1.95
32 x851z 2½p pink, thick value,CB,1971 ......... . .40
33 x851 2½p pink,thinner value,CB,1971 .. ...... .25
34 x852 2½p pink,very thin value,LB,1972 ... 1.75
34a x852Ea 2½p pink, RB, 1972 .................... 1.75
34b x853 2½p pink, 2B, 1975 ..................... . .40
35 x929 2½p rose red, PCP, 1981 ............... . .20
35a x854 2½p rose red, 2B, 1981 ............ ... .. .50
36 x855 3p ultramarine, 2B, 1971 ..................... .20
36a x856 3p ultramarine, CB, 1973 .................... .20
37 x930 3p magenta, PCP, 1980 ....................... .20
37a x857 3p magenta, 2B, 1982 .......................... .40
38 x930c 3p magenta, redrawn, PCP, 1989 ....... 1.65
39 x858 3½p olive-grey, 2B, 1971 .................... .40
39 x858Eb 3½p bronze-green, 2B, 1973 ................ .45
39a x859 3½p bronze-green, CB, 1974 ............... .45
40 x931 3½p purple brown, PCP, 1983 ............. .45
40a x860 3½p purple brown, CB, 1983 ............. 1.35
41 x861 4p ochre brown, 2B, 1971 .................... .30
42 `x932 4p greenish blue, PCP, 1981 ................ .75
43 ` x932Ea 4p pale greenish blue, PCP, 1984 ......... .65
44 x862 4p greenish blue, 2B, 1981 .................. 2.00
45 ` x863 4p greenish blue,redrawn,CB,1984 ..... 1.85
45a x864 4p greenish blue, RB, 1985 ...... ..... 2.50
45b x864Ea 4p greenish blue, LB, 1985 ........, .... 2.00
46 x933 4p new blue, PCP, 1988 ............... .. .40
47 x996 4p grn bl.lith.thin val.2B,p14,1980 .... .40
47a x997 4p grn blue,litho,PCP,perf.14,1981 ..... .40
48 x1002 4p grn blue,litho,redrawn,PCP,1986 . 1.10
49 x865 4½p grey-blue, 2B, 1973 ....... ......... .25
50 x866 5p pale violet, 2B, 1971 ...................... .25
50a x934 5p pale violet, PCP, 1979 ................... .30
51 x1003 5p lt.violet,litho, p.14, PCP, 1980 ....... .45
52 x1004 5p claret, litho,perf.14, PCP, 1982 ../... .70
53 x1004a 5p claret, litho, PCP, 1984 ................... .90
54 x867 5p claret, redrawn, CB, 1986 ............. 2.50
55 x935 5p dull red brown, PCP, 1988 ............. .45
56 x868 5½p violet, 2B, 1973 ........................... .35
56a x869 5½p violet, CB, 1975 ........................... .35
57 x870 6p light emerald, 2B, 1971 .................. .35
58 x870a 6p lt.emerald, thinner val.,2B,1973 ..,... .95
59 x936 6p yellow olive, PCP, 1991 ..............,,, .40
59a x871 6½p greenish blue, 2B, 1974 ........... ,,. .45
60 x872 6½p greenish blue, CB, 1975 ..........,,... .35
60a x873 6½p greenish blue, RB, 1977 ............... .75
60b x873Ea 6½p greenish blue, LB, 1977 ............... .65
60c x874 7p purple brown, 2B, 1975 .................. .35
61 x875 7p purple brown, CB, 1977 ................. .30
61a x876 7p purple brown, RB, 1977 ................. .60
61b x876Ea 7p purple brown, LB, 1977 ................. .50
62 x937 7p brick red, PCP, 1985 ...................... .95
344 Y1673 7p bright magenta, 2B, 2004 ............... .75
63 x877 7½p chestnut, 2B, 1971 ....................... .35
64 x878 8p rosine, 2B, 1973 .............................. .35
64a x879 8p rosine, CB, 1979 ............................. .35
64b x880 8p rosine, RB, 1979 ............................. .60
64c x880Ea 8p rosine, LB, 1979 ............................. .60
65 x881 8½p lt. yellowish green,2B, 1975 ........ .35
65a x881Eb 8½p yellowish green, 2B, 1976 ........... .45
65b x938 8½p yellowish green, PCP, 1976 ......... .50
66 x882 9p orange & black, 2B, 1971 ............... .60
67 x883 9p deep violet, 2B, 1976 ...................... .35
346 Y1675 9p yellow-orange, 2B, 2005 ................ .45
346a Y1675a 9p orange, litho ex. s/s, 2B, 2010 ....... 3.95
68 x884 9½p purple, 2B, 1976 .......................... .40
69 x885 10p brown & chestnut, 2B, 1971 ......... .60
70 x886 10p orange brown, 2B, 1976 ............... .40
70D x886b 10p orange brown,redrawn, 2B,1984 34.00
70Da x887 10p orange brown, PPP, 1979 .............. .45
70Db x888 10p orange brown, CB, 1980 ............... .40
70Dc x889 10p orange brown, RB, 1980 ................ .90
79Dd x889Ea 10p orange brown, LB, 1980 ............... .70
70De x939 10p orange brown, PCP, 1979 .............. .40
71 x940 10p dull orange, PCP, 1990 ................. .55
72 x890 10½p yellow, 2B, 1976 ........................ .50
73 x891 10½p blue, 2B, 1978 ............................ .65
74 x892 11p brown red, 2B, 1976 ..................... .50
74a x941 11p brown red, PCP, 1980 ................... .85
75 x942 11½p ochre brown, PCP, 1979 ............. .55
76 x893 11½p drab, CB, 1981 ........................... .45
76a x894 11½p drab, RB, 1981 ........................... .65
76a x894Ea 11½p drab, LB, 1981 ........................... .65
77 x894a 11½p drab, thick value, CB,1981 ........ .95
78 x943 12p yellow green, PCP, 1980 .............. .55
78a x895 12p yellow green, 2B, 1980 ................ .60
79 x896 12p emerald, CB, 1985 ....................... .55
79a x896Eu 12p Star (random pattern),1985. ..........95
79b x897 12p emerald, RB, 1986 ....................... .90
79c x897Ea 12p emerald, LB, 1986 ....................... .85
347 Y1677 12p greenish-blue, 2B, 2006 ............... .75
80 x898 12½p pale emerald, CB, 1982 ............ .55
81 x898a 12½p pl.emld,thick val.,CB,1982 ....... .75
81a x898Eu 12½p pl emerald, Double Star, 1982......80
81b x898Ev 12½p pale emerald, Star, 1983............. .80
81c x899 12½p pale emerald, RB, 1982 ............ .60
81d x899Eu 12½p pale emerald, LB, 1982 ..............60
82 x944 13p olive grey, PCP, 1979 .................. .65
83 x900 13p chestnut, CB, 1984 ....................... .50
83a x900Eu 13p chestnut, Star, 1986....................... .85
83b x901 13p chestnut, RB, 1984 ....................... .50
83c x901Ea 13p chestnut, LB, 1984 ....................... .50
84 x1005 13p chestnut, litho, CB, 1988 .............. .85
85 x1006 13p chestnut, litho, RB, 1988 .............. .85
85a x1006Ea 13p chestnut, litho, LB, 1988 ............. . 85
85b x945 13½p purple brown, PCP, 1980 ...,,,,... .70
86 x946 14p grey blue, PCP, 1981 .................... .60
86a x902 14p grey blue, 2B, 1981 ...................... .75
87 x903 14p dark blue, CB, 1988 ..................... .60
87a x904 14p dark blue, RB, 1988 ................... 5.65
88 x1007 14p dark blue,litho, CB, 1988 ........... 2.45
89 x1051 14p dk.blue,litho,p.14, RB, 1989 ...... 6.25
348 Y1678 14p rose red, 2B, 2006 ........................ .70
90 x947 15p ultramarine, PCP, 1979 ................ .65
91 x905 15p bright blue, CB, 1989 ................... .80
91a x906 15p bright blue, LB, 1989 ................. 3.95
91b x906Ea 15p bright blue, RB, 1990 ................. 2.90
348A Y1679 15p bright magenta, 2B, 2008 ............... .75
92 x948 15½p pale violet, PCP, 1981 .....,,,...,,,. .60
93 x948a 15½p pl.violet,thick val.PCP,1982 ...... .90
93a x907 15½p pale violet, 2B, 1982 .................. .65
93b x907Eu 15½p pale violet, Double Star, 1982.... .95
94 x949 16p olive-drab, PCP, 1983 ................... .65
94a x949Eu 16p olive drab, D, 1983...................... 1.00
94b x908 16p olive-drab, 2B, 1983 .................... 1.10
349 Y1680 16p pale cerise, 2B, 2007 ...................... .75
349a Y1769 16p pale cerise, litho, 2B, 2009 .. .. 4.25
95 x950 16½p chestnut, PCP, 1982 .................. 1.00
96 x951 17p light emerald, PCP, 1980 ............... .75
97 x952 17p grey-blue, PCP, 1983 ..................... .60
97a x952Eu 17p grey-blue, D, 1985......................... 1.00
97b x909 17p grey-blue, 2B, 1984 ........................ .65
97c x909Eu 17p gr blueStar (random pattern) 1985. 1.00
98 x910 17p dark blue, CB, 1990 ..................... 1.10
98a x911 17p dark blue, RB, 1990 ..................... 7.25
98a x911Ea 17p dark blue, LB , 1990 .................... 1.30
99 x1008 17p dark blue,litho, CB, 1991 ............. 1.10
350 Y1681 17p brown-olive, 2B, 2009 .................... .80
350b Y1770 17p bistre, litho, 2B, 2009 ................... 2.75
100 x953 17½p chestnut, PCP, 1980 ..................... .90
101 x954 18p deep violet, PCP, 1981 ................... .80
102 x955 18p deep olive-grey, PCP, 1984 ............ .80
102a x912 18p deep olive-grey, 2B, 1986 ............... .80
103 x1009 18p dp olive-grey, litho, PCP, 1988 ......1.00
103a x1010 18p dp olive-grey, litho, 2B, 1988 ........ 8.35
104 x913 18p bright green, CB, 1991 ..................... .85
103a x913(fl) 18p brt.green, fluorescent CB, 1991 ...... 1.20
105 x1011 18p bright green, litho, CB, 1992 .......... 1.25
105a x1012 18p bright green, litho, RB, 1992 .......... 1.80
105b x1012Ea 18p brt.grn.,litho,fluor.LB, 1993 ........... 2.50
106 x956 19p bright orange red, PCP, 1988 ........... .75
106a x914 19p bright orange red, 2B, 1988 ............ 1.50
107 x1013 19p orange red, litho, PCP, 1988 ........ 2.15
108 x1052 19p orange red,litho,p.14,2B,1989 ..... 3.25
110 x957 19½p olive-grey, PCP, 1982 ............... 1.95
111 x915 20p dull purple, 2B, 1976 ................... 1.15
111a x958 20p dull purple, PCP, 1979 .............. .. 1.15
112 x998 20p dl.purple,litho,p.14, 2B, 1980 ....... 1.60
112a x999 20p dl.purple,litho,p.14,PCP, 1981 ..... 1.60
113 x1014 20p dl.prple,litho,rdrawn,PCP,1986 .... 1.95
114 x959 20p turquoise green, PCP, 1988 ............ .85
115 x960 20p brownish black, PCP, 1989 ............ .90
115a x916 20p brownish black, 2B, 1989 ............. 1.45
116 x961 20½p ultramarine, PCP, 1983 .............. 1.40
117 x962 22p blue, PCP, 1980 .............................. .85
118 x963 22p yellow green, PCP, 1984 ................ .90
119 x1015 22p yellow green,litho, 2B,1988 ...... 12.95
120 x964 22p bright orange red, PCP, 1990 ....... 1.10
120a x917 22p bright orange red, 2B, 1990 ......... 1.45
121 x1016 22p orange red, litho, PCP, 1991 ........ 1.20 ````````
350A Y1688 22p drab, 2B, 2009 ......... ............ .85
350AcY1774 22p olive-brown, litho, 2B, 2009 ..... . 2.95
122 x965 23p brown red, PCP, 1983 .................. 1.45
123 x966 23p bright green, PCP, 1988 ............... 1.25
124 x967 24p violet, PCP, 1984 ......................... 1.50
125 x968 24p Indian red, PCP, 1989 .................. 1.95
126 x969 24p chestnut, PCP, 1991 ....................... .95
127 x1017 24p chestnut, litho, PCP, 1992 ............ 1.20
127a x1018 24p chestnut, litho, 2B, 1992 .............. 1.75
128 x1053 24p chestnut,litho,p.14, PCP, 1993 .... 1.45
129 x970 25p purple, PCP, 1981 ....................... 1.00
129A x917a 25p rose red, 2B, 1996 ..................... 14.25
130 x971 26p rosine, PCP, 1982 ........................ 1.00
130a x918 26p rosine, 2B, 1987 ........................... 8.00
131 x971b 26p rosine, redrawn, PCP, 1987 ......,... 3.95
132 x972 26p drab, PCP, 1990 ........,.,.,.,............ 1.45
133 x973 27p chestnut, PCP, 1988 ..................... 1.45
134 x974 27p violet, PCP, 1990 ......................... 1.45
135 x975 28p deep violet, PCP, 1983 ................ 1.25
136 x976 28p ochre, PCP, 1988 ......................... 1.45
137 x977 28p deep bluish grey, PCP, 1991 ........ 1.45
138 x978 29p ochre brown, PCP, 1982 .............. 1.75
139 x979 29p deep mauve, PCP, 1989 ............... 1.95
140 x1054 29p dp.mauve,litho,p.14, 2B, 1989 ..... 3.95
142a x1055 29p dp.mauve,litho,p.14, PCP, 1990 ... 6.25
141 x980 30p deep olive grey, PCP, 1989 .......... 1.45
142 x981 31p purple, PCP, 1983 ........................ 1.40
142a x919 31p purple, 2B, 1986 ......................... 16.50
143 x982 31p ultramarine, PCP, 1990 ................ 1.90
144 x1056 31p ultra.,litho, p.14, PCP, 1990 ........ 2.25
145 x983 32p greenish blue, PCP, 1988 ............. 1.70
146 x984 33p emerald, PCP, 1990 ..................... 1.65
146a x1019 33p emerald, litho, PCP, 1991 ............ 3.25
147 x1020 33p emerald, litho, 2B, 1992 .............. 2.50
147a x1020 33p emld,litho,fluorescent 2B,1993 .... 2.75
148 x1057 33p emerald,litho, p.14, PCP, 1991 .... 2.45
149 x985 34p ochre brown, PCP, 1984 .............. 1.60
149a x920 34p ochre brown, 2B, 1985 ................. 7.00
150 x1021 34p ochre brown, litho, 2B, 1988 ...... 11.45
151 x986 34p deep bluish grey, PCP, 1989 ......... 1.95
152 x987 34p deep mauve, PCP, 1991 ................. 1.95
153 x988 35p sepia, PCP, 1988 ............................ 1.95
154 x989 35p yellow, PCP, 1991 ......................... 1.95
351 Y1700 35p sepia, 2B, 2004 .......... ........... 1.85
352 Y1701 35p yellow-olive, CB, 2005 .................. 1.55
155 x990 37p rosine, PCP, 1989 .......................... 1.95
353 Y1705 37p brown-olive, CB, 2006 .................. 1.75
156 x991 39p bright mauve, PCP, 1991 ............... 2.10
157 x1058 39p brt.mauve,litho,p.14, PCP,1991 .... 2.50
158 x1022 39p bright mauve, litho,2B, 1992 ......... 2.50
158a x1022 39p brt.mauve,litho,fluor.2B,1993 ....... 2.95
354 Y1709 39p grey, 2B, 2004 ............................... 1.95
355 Y1711 40p turquoise-blue, 2B, 2004 ............... 1.95
304 2297 42p deep olive-grey, 2B, 2002 ............. 6.95
358 Y1718 43p emerald, 2B, 2004 ......................... 2.25
359 Y1720 44p bright blue, 2B, 2006 .................... 2.20
361 Y1722 46p yellow, 2B, 2005 ........................... 1.95
363 Y1724 48p bright mauve, 2B, 2007 ................. 2.55
363b Y1781 48p brt. mauve, litho, 2B, 2009 ............ 5.45
364 Y1725 49p red-brown, 2B, 2006 ..................... 2.25
159 x921 50p ochre brown, 2B, 1977 .................. 2.45
159a x992 50p ochre brown, no phosphor, 1980 ... 2.45
160 x993* 50p ochre,redrawn,no phosphor,1990 .. 3.25
160a x922 50p ochre, redrawn, 2B, 1990 .............. 5.75
161a x991a* 50p ochre, redrawn, PCP, 1992 ............ 4.40
365 Y1727 50p grey, 2B, 2007 ............................... 2.25
365a Y1782 50p grey, litho, 2B, 2009 ...................... 5.40
366 Y1728 54p red-brown, 2B, 2007 ..................... 2.20
366B Y1783 54p litho, Sc. Type b/SG T.III, 2010 .... 5.95
367 Y1729 56p yellow-olive, 2B, 2008 .................. 2.25
368 Y1731 62p rosine, 2B, 2009 ............................. 2.25
368a Y1786 62p rosine, litho, 2B, 2009 .................... 3.75
306 2298 68p grey-brown, 2B, 2002 .................... 6.95
370 Y1737 72p rosine, 2B, 2006 ............................. 2.90
161 x1023 75p black, litho, perf. 14, 1980 ............ 3.75
162 x1023a 75p black, litho, 1984 ........................... 3.90
163 x1024 75p grey&black,redrawn,litho,1988 ... 11.00
164 x994* 75p grey-black, redrawn, 1988 .............. 3.95
371 Y1738 78p emerald, 2B, 2007 ........................... 3.40
372 Y1739 81p turquoise-blue, 2B, 2008 ................ 3.25
372A Y1741 90p ultramarine, 2B, 2009 ..................... 3.25
372Ab Y1789 90p bright blue, litho, 2B, 2009 ............. 6.25
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Inserting the list into the SoR format jumbles the columns so you would haven to copy it as it is and then restore (Realign) the spacing.
There is a further list of issues with elliptical perfs and computer engraved, so my next step would have been to insert these values by denomination into, for example, the 1p crimson of the regular decimals. (Conventional perfs) so that segment might look like this;
22 x841 ½p turquoise, 2B, 1971 ................... .20
22a x842 ½p turquoise, LB, 1972 .......... .... ...69.00
22b x842 Same, ½p turquoise, clipped perfs ..16.00
22c x843 ½p turquoise, CB, 1977 .................... ...35
22d x924 ½p turquoise, PCP, 1980 .................. .25
23 x844 1p crimson, 2B, 1971 ........................ .20
23a x845 1p crimson, CB, 1977 ...........................25
23Aa x845a 1p crimson, redrawn, CB, 1984 .......... .55
23a x846 1p crimson, PPP, 1979 ............. ... .35
23b x847 1p crimson, LB, 1986 ................... 1.10
23c x847Ea 1p crimson, RB, 1987 .................. .. 3.95
23d x925 1p crimson, PCP, 1979 ............. .. .20
199 Y1667 1p crimson, 2B, 1993 ................... .25
200 Y1760 1p lake, litho, 2B, 1996 ............... .90
245 Y1667 1p crimson, 2B, 1997 ................. $ .20
245aY1761 1p reddish purple,litho,2B,2009 .. 3.50
24 x848 1½p black, 2B, 1971 ................ .. .20
And so on .....ad infinitum
Once all the ellipticals are in place, you can see what the SG numbers would look like. I was planning on eliminating the first columns and add a simple; 1, 2, 3, sequence.that might allow a direct comparison between Deegams numbers and SG's insanity.
But that is still a work in progress and might eventually be a waste if some new significant variety is issued with some new added Letter designation.
(I must have been dozing at the keyboard last night, but now the spelling is closer to correct. )
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