I'm off to yet another part of stamps that I haven't been through and can not find the answer to my question or at least a picture so I can see the difference.
I'm working on US revenues. I have several Battleships. The catalog tells me they could be Rouletted 5 1/2 or Hyphen Hole Perf 7. I understand both terms. Is there a picture somewhere out on the internet that can show me the real difference?
Here's the stamp in question:
Thanks for your help,
Luree
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re: Revenues: Roulette or Hyphen Hole Perforation?
Your stamp is roulette 5.5.
In hyphen-hole, paper is actually removed during the perforation process. Also, the gauge would be 7. Turns out on these revenues, you can just count the "nubs" on the side and figure out whether 5.5 or 7.
I'll see if I can make and upload a comparative pic for you.
re: Revenues: Roulette or Hyphen Hole Perforation?
Thanks k, you are the best. What confused me is on the side I did count 5.5, but the top is hyphens, or what looks like hyphen to me. So what I need to do is just count the right hand side for the rouletting?
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re: Revenues: Roulette or Hyphen Hole Perforation?
Working on the picture...
Always count the right/left side for this issue.
Those are actually roulettes, but it does look like hyphens. In hyphen-hole, the slits (i.e., hyphens are actually cut out long rectangles. If you look are both the top AND the bottom of your stamp, you will realize what has happened. In the separation process, the paper did not tear perfectly in the middle, so you see "nubs" at the bottom and "divots" at the top where the paper tore out.
See my pic in the next post and you may see it more clearly.
re: Revenues: Roulette or Hyphen Hole Perforation?
OK, 0.5c is roulette and 5c is hyphen-hole. Notice in the roulette, no paper is removed during the cutting process. In the hyphen-hole, a thin rectangular strip (i.e., hyphen) is removed.
Obviously, easier to see when still connected. If you know the roul/perf gauge, sometimes it's easier to just measure/count it.
re: Revenues: Roulette or Hyphen Hole Perforation?
Thank you, I see the difference now. It just makes it so much easier to know what I should be looking at instead of guessing.
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re: Revenues: Roulette or Hyphen Hole Perforation?
Why, yes.....
Those are "Shermack" perforations. They are a type of hypen hole perforation. Shermack was one company invested in stamp vending machines between 1905 and 1920. They applied their perforations primarily to strips of stamps from imperforate sheets, to make the stamps easier to detach from the output feed of the vending machines.
Another company into the private stamp vending machine business was Attleboro. Their hyphen hole perforation was even more severe:
This is the backside of a pair of the Alaska-Yukon issue (Scott 371) with Attleboro private perforations.
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re: Revenues: Roulette or Hyphen Hole Perforation?
Great information. May I suggest to edit better title so that the information can be easier retrieved in the future? Perhaps "Revenues: Roulette or Hyphen Hole Perforation?" -- or whatever you prefer, but not "Can somebody tell me....":
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Sorry I didn't follow your rules on the subject line......
But for those who did reply, I do thank you for the information
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Purrfin2 - No need to apologize! We all appreciate titles that are as complete as possible but there is a learning curve. No worries
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