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CaliforniaBob
07 Apr 2015
09:29:58pm
I purchased these covers recently, and when they arrived I wondered if they are genuine, due to the fact that they were in such excellent shape, and that the frankings are very unusual, I think. What are the opinions of those more familiar with this area? Are the meter-like impressions genuine?Image Not Found

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08 Apr 2015
12:19:51am
re: Suspect Ukraine Covers

There is a catalog for provisional Ukranian postage. I have never seen these before myself, but then I don't have the catalog, much to my chagrin. I do collect this type of stuff on cover as well.

The catalog is The Provisional Postage Stamps of Ukraine, 1992-1995 by Hryhoriy Lobko. It can be purchased at http://upns.org/bookstore for $37 including postage.

Gotta get me one.

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08 Apr 2015
07:16:18am
re: Suspect Ukraine Covers

I had a few hundred of these a few years ago and was told by experts in the field that they were mostly manufactured items and bogus.

I did not do any follow-up research.

Roy

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08 Apr 2015
11:23:35am
re: Suspect Ukraine Covers

Here is one of mine that I know is legit.

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daveanddeb
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28 Sep 2015
08:18:40pm
re: Suspect Ukraine Covers

I collect a lot of this material. I've looked at the Ukraine catalog and I guess the only problem I have with it is the admission by the author that it is difficult to know what is legit or not because stamps were permitted if requested by 1) The Central Postal Authority in Kiev, 2) Local Postmasters who ran out of issued postage from the Central Postal Authority, 3) Issues requested by local Stamp Clubs that prevailed upon a local Postmaster to create issued which were sold in their entirety to the stamp club, and 4) Issues for which there simply isn't enough information one way or the other. In other words, the catalog is a best effort but not by any means complete. One thing I can tell you that is pretty reliable. If the Ukraine stamp (1991-1995) is overprinted on obsolete Soviet Postage then it is either stamp-club inspired (such as the Donetsk set with the crossed hammers overprint) or is bogus (ie. the sets that have a continuous scenic overprint such as 5 different birds on a strip of 5 stamps). The ones shown so far on this thread are genuine. I hope this helps.

Dave

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28 Sep 2015
09:11:31pm
re: Suspect Ukraine Covers

Dave, there are other former Soviet Republics where overprints were printed on former USSR stamps. Could you provide us with some examples and further details of what are considered to be genuine and those that are not? Would we call these creations for stamp collectors?

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daveanddeb
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11 Nov 2015
10:21:09pm
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Hi again. Sure. Ukraine is probably the one former-USSR republic where there actually is some question about what is and is not genuine. Here is another example. Moldova did issue a few sets overprinted on former USSR postage. Then, of course, some postal officials had to get greedy and place the Moldovan Cities handstamps - these were handstamped on both postal cards and postal stationery to celebrate Moldova's cities - on obsolete Soviet Postage and then sell them to stamp dealers. My understanding is that the perpetrators were sentenced to prison. There are many varieties of these labels representing many cities. While they are Cinderellas to be sure...some Russian Republics such as Rostov issued only 1 set of temporary stamps printed on brown paper and these are genuine. St. Petersburg is another example. While they did issue a couple sets of what are apparently semi-postals on on obsolete soviet postage...most of their legitimate issues were printed on thin cardboard with handstamped overprints. I hope this helps.

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